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> <channel><title>Comments on: We&#8217;re All Hedge Funds Now</title> <atom:link href="http://alephblog.com/2008/12/06/were-all-hedge-funds-now/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://alephblog.com/2008/12/06/were-all-hedge-funds-now/</link> <description>Helping Institutions and Ordinary People Invest Better by Focusing on Risk Control</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 21:31:47 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Tom</title><link>http://alephblog.com/2008/12/06/were-all-hedge-funds-now/comment-page-1/#comment-20327</link> <dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:40:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://alephblog.com/?p=1218#comment-20327</guid> <description>The trade the US Government is making is a short volatility spread.
The risk is future volatility.
If future volatility declines or moderates it might be successful.
If future volatility increases your dead.
Being short future volatility has not worked for the banking industry, thus I am doubtful that it will work for the US Government.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trade the US Government is making is a short volatility spread.</p><p>The risk is future volatility.<br
/> If future volatility declines or moderates it might be successful.<br
/> If future volatility increases your dead.</p><p>Being short future volatility has not worked for the banking industry, thus I am doubtful that it will work for the US Government.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: FrankfromCalgary</title><link>http://alephblog.com/2008/12/06/were-all-hedge-funds-now/comment-page-1/#comment-20326</link> <dc:creator>FrankfromCalgary</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:21:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://alephblog.com/?p=1218#comment-20326</guid> <description>DaveinHackensack - those loans probably aren&#039;t dodgy, but I don&#039;t think there are enough of those qualified borrowers around to achieve the policy objective of stopping the fall in home values.  Therefore the government will soon be forced to relax its standards - ergo dodgy assets.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DaveinHackensack &#8211; those loans probably aren&#8217;t dodgy, but I don&#8217;t think there are enough of those qualified borrowers around to achieve the policy objective of stopping the fall in home values.  Therefore the government will soon be forced to relax its standards &#8211; ergo dodgy assets.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark</title><link>http://alephblog.com/2008/12/06/were-all-hedge-funds-now/comment-page-1/#comment-20308</link> <dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:03:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://alephblog.com/?p=1218#comment-20308</guid> <description>The difference now is that most of the banks in the last decade have focused on floating rate commercial loans.  Fixed rate residential loans were targeted for sale to the securitzation market. These commercial loans are indexed to Prime and reset down with every recent FOMC meeting.
Not many banks are positioned to recapitalize in a steep yield curve environment. I think this was a symptom of the inverted curve they had to deal with for the last 2 years.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference now is that most of the banks in the last decade have focused on floating rate commercial loans.  Fixed rate residential loans were targeted for sale to the securitzation market. These commercial loans are indexed to Prime and reset down with every recent FOMC meeting.</p><p>Not many banks are positioned to recapitalize in a steep yield curve environment. I think this was a symptom of the inverted curve they had to deal with for the last 2 years.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DaveinHackensack</title><link>http://alephblog.com/2008/12/06/were-all-hedge-funds-now/comment-page-1/#comment-20307</link> <dc:creator>DaveinHackensack</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:45:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://alephblog.com/?p=1218#comment-20307</guid> <description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;To make it absurd, why doesn’t the US Government buy every dodgy asset?&quot;&lt;/I&gt;
A first mortgage is only a &quot;dodgy asset&quot; if the loan was extended without any common sense underwriting standards or a down payment requirement. If the government limits its subsidy of 4.5% mortgages to those made to borrowers with good credit, with 20% down payment requirements, and loan amounts limited to 3x the borrowers&#039; annual income, what would be dodgy about that?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;To make it absurd, why doesn’t the US Government buy every dodgy asset?&#8221;</i></p><p>A first mortgage is only a &#8220;dodgy asset&#8221; if the loan was extended without any common sense underwriting standards or a down payment requirement. If the government limits its subsidy of 4.5% mortgages to those made to borrowers with good credit, with 20% down payment requirements, and loan amounts limited to 3x the borrowers&#8217; annual income, what would be dodgy about that?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don the libertarian Democrat</title><link>http://alephblog.com/2008/12/06/were-all-hedge-funds-now/comment-page-1/#comment-20305</link> <dc:creator>Don the libertarian Democrat</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:25:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://alephblog.com/?p=1218#comment-20305</guid> <description>&quot;To make it absurd, why doesn’t the US Government buy every dodgy asset?  It could make money on them, and save money for taxpayers.&quot;
Wasn&#039;t this the original TARP plan? We were going to but the toxic assets, fund them, and then sell them later at a profit. That was the plan of William Gross, wasn&#039;t it?
Of course, you ask the sensible question: If it&#039;s such a good deal, why doesn&#039;t the government do it as a matter of course?  Unless, of course,  the government only likes buying and investing in a crash. That&#039;s not a terrible strategy, I suppose, but it would lead you to wonder if the government would use its power to unreasonably take over businesses. I think that&#039;s John Hempton&#039;s concern about the FDIC.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To make it absurd, why doesn’t the US Government buy every dodgy asset?  It could make money on them, and save money for taxpayers.&#8221;</p><p>Wasn&#8217;t this the original TARP plan? We were going to but the toxic assets, fund them, and then sell them later at a profit. That was the plan of William Gross, wasn&#8217;t it?</p><p>Of course, you ask the sensible question: If it&#8217;s such a good deal, why doesn&#8217;t the government do it as a matter of course?  Unless, of course,  the government only likes buying and investing in a crash. That&#8217;s not a terrible strategy, I suppose, but it would lead you to wonder if the government would use its power to unreasonably take over businesses. I think that&#8217;s John Hempton&#8217;s concern about the FDIC.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: matt_swansojeiker</title><link>http://alephblog.com/2008/12/06/were-all-hedge-funds-now/comment-page-1/#comment-20303</link> <dc:creator>matt_swansojeiker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:02:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://alephblog.com/?p=1218#comment-20303</guid> <description>Sigh.  This entire crisis can be traced back to the negative consequences of highly-leveraged arbitrage strategies off AAA-rated securities.  Now our government decides &quot;I&#039;ve got to get in on that!&quot;
I am literally dumbfounded that this has not yet been recognized as a crisis of solvency and not liquidity.  We&#039;re going to have to see a Treasury auction fail before that hits home and that&#039;s sickening to me.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh.  This entire crisis can be traced back to the negative consequences of highly-leveraged arbitrage strategies off AAA-rated securities.  Now our government decides &#8220;I&#8217;ve got to get in on that!&#8221;</p><p>I am literally dumbfounded that this has not yet been recognized as a crisis of solvency and not liquidity.  We&#8217;re going to have to see a Treasury auction fail before that hits home and that&#8217;s sickening to me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dan Duncan</title><link>http://alephblog.com/2008/12/06/were-all-hedge-funds-now/comment-page-1/#comment-20301</link> <dc:creator>Dan Duncan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:50:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://alephblog.com/?p=1218#comment-20301</guid> <description>To The Humble Student:
Who are they going to lend long to?
Homeowners?  [Ooops..no luck here.]
Export driven countries?  [Why---they don&#039;t need the $$?]
Import Driven countries?  [See Homeowners]
Other banks?  [Good luck with that]
Businesses?  [If all the above are tapped and therefore in a difficult position to drive your growth--- a la The Big 3 which needs it&#039;s customers to extract home equity in order to purchase that shiny new car--why would you want to borrow long, when your growth is screetching to a halt?]
Wait, I know....how about this:
They borrow short from the Discount window and then lend long by purchasing 10 and 30 yr Teasuries?  Great Scott!  I think I&#039;ve just solved our problems!!!
[For a visual, picture a rat on a spin wheel]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To The Humble Student:</p><p>Who are they going to lend long to?</p><p>Homeowners?  [Ooops..no luck here.]</p><p>Export driven countries?  [Why---they don't need the $$?]</p><p>Import Driven countries?  [See Homeowners]</p><p>Other banks?  [Good luck with that]</p><p>Businesses?  [If all the above are tapped and therefore in a difficult position to drive your growth--- a la The Big 3 which needs it's customers to extract home equity in order to purchase that shiny new car--why would you want to borrow long, when your growth is screetching to a halt?]</p><p>Wait, I know&#8230;.how about this:</p><p>They borrow short from the Discount window and then lend long by purchasing 10 and 30 yr Teasuries?  Great Scott!  I think I&#8217;ve just solved our problems!!!</p><p>[For a visual, picture a rat on a spin wheel]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Humble student of the markets</title><link>http://alephblog.com/2008/12/06/were-all-hedge-funds-now/comment-page-1/#comment-20300</link> <dc:creator>Humble student of the markets</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:52:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://alephblog.com/?p=1218#comment-20300</guid> <description>Remember the Latin American sovereign loan crisis of the early 80s?  Remember that most of the US banks were technically insolvent?
Was the solution then:
1) Keep the loan on the books at face value (no writedown as it would have made the bank insolvent); and
2) Engineer an upward sloping yield curve and encourage the banks to borrow short and lend long, with a wink and a nod that they won&#039;t get hurt doing this, so that banking balance sheets would get repaired.
What&#039;s the difference between then and now?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the Latin American sovereign loan crisis of the early 80s?  Remember that most of the US banks were technically insolvent?</p><p>Was the solution then:<br
/> 1) Keep the loan on the books at face value (no writedown as it would have made the bank insolvent); and<br
/> 2) Engineer an upward sloping yield curve and encourage the banks to borrow short and lend long, with a wink and a nod that they won&#8217;t get hurt doing this, so that banking balance sheets would get repaired.</p><p>What&#8217;s the difference between then and now?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dan Duncan</title><link>http://alephblog.com/2008/12/06/were-all-hedge-funds-now/comment-page-1/#comment-20299</link> <dc:creator>Dan Duncan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:46:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://alephblog.com/?p=1218#comment-20299</guid> <description>I have a credit card. It prints money.
I live in a house, which combined with my Wells Fargo Equity Line---also prints money.
I work for a Fortune 500 Company, run by wizards who have access to a giant corporate credit card---so we are able to take out Covenant Lite Loans.  We borrow the money and use it to sell yen and borrow the Pound.
Admittedly we do sell a somewhat dodgy asset---but we spread our sales out all over the world---so nobody gets hurt.  On the stuff we can&#039;t sell, we stick in a place called Tier III.  This allows us to back to the markets and borrow some more.
My employer prints money.
I live in a country that has gone from The Gold Standard to The Paper and Ink Standard.  It too, prints money.
My minds-eye beholds in my minds-hand a virtual coin.  &quot;In God We Trust&quot; has been replaced on the heads side with &quot;We&#039;re All Financial Alchemists Now&quot; and on the tails side with &quot;We&#039;re All Gutenbergers Now&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a credit card. It prints money.</p><p>I live in a house, which combined with my Wells Fargo Equity Line&#8212;also prints money.</p><p>I work for a Fortune 500 Company, run by wizards who have access to a giant corporate credit card&#8212;so we are able to take out Covenant Lite Loans.  We borrow the money and use it to sell yen and borrow the Pound.</p><p>Admittedly we do sell a somewhat dodgy asset&#8212;but we spread our sales out all over the world&#8212;so nobody gets hurt.  On the stuff we can&#8217;t sell, we stick in a place called Tier III.  This allows us to back to the markets and borrow some more.</p><p>My employer prints money.</p><p>I live in a country that has gone from The Gold Standard to The Paper and Ink Standard.  It too, prints money.</p><p>My minds-eye beholds in my minds-hand a virtual coin.  &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; has been replaced on the heads side with &#8220;We&#8217;re All Financial Alchemists Now&#8221; and on the tails side with &#8220;We&#8217;re All Gutenbergers Now&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
