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		<title>By: J Cauchy</title>
		<link>http://alephblog.com/2009/01/22/hidden-credit-risk-in-currency-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-20777</link>
		<dc:creator>J Cauchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to own PIMCO Commodity Real Return (D). Reading the statement of holdings, it always bothered me the garbage they held in there for yield enhancement. They said it was a &quot;double real return strategy&quot; to hold TIPS and commodity index swaps. That&#039;s what I wanted. I did not want to be writing CDS on Peruvian sovereign debt. 

&quot;Credit risk, it&#039;s what&#039;s for dinner.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to own PIMCO Commodity Real Return (D). Reading the statement of holdings, it always bothered me the garbage they held in there for yield enhancement. They said it was a &#8220;double real return strategy&#8221; to hold TIPS and commodity index swaps. That&#8217;s what I wanted. I did not want to be writing CDS on Peruvian sovereign debt. </p>
<p>&#8220;Credit risk, it&#8217;s what&#8217;s for dinner.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://alephblog.com/2009/01/22/hidden-credit-risk-in-currency-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-20773</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David: Would like your ideas on the credit risks of the ultra funds, both long and short. Over at Barry Ritholtz, Big Picture, the subject has come up intermittently, but the prospectuses are suitably vague, allowing them to invest in options, swaps and such, but giving no info on how much they put into each. 

Thanks. 

IF: I bought a foreign bond fund for my wife&#039;s 403b. The reports on Schwab looked ok. Later, on Morningstar, it showed that they owned a bunch of swaps on one of the foreign currencies. Believe it was the Yen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David: Would like your ideas on the credit risks of the ultra funds, both long and short. Over at Barry Ritholtz, Big Picture, the subject has come up intermittently, but the prospectuses are suitably vague, allowing them to invest in options, swaps and such, but giving no info on how much they put into each. </p>
<p>Thanks. </p>
<p>IF: I bought a foreign bond fund for my wife&#8217;s 403b. The reports on Schwab looked ok. Later, on Morningstar, it showed that they owned a bunch of swaps on one of the foreign currencies. Believe it was the Yen.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, considering how many times such funds have been discussed and recommended on websites like theStreet.com, I think that it would be neat if you proposed contributing a brief piece about it over there.  Seriously, it&#039;s the kind of thing that they would actually love because it stands to get some buzz going.  I&#039;ll bet there are literally hundreds of lay investors who hold such funds and would benefit from such an article.  (And you can take the credit!!!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, considering how many times such funds have been discussed and recommended on websites like theStreet.com, I think that it would be neat if you proposed contributing a brief piece about it over there.  Seriously, it&#8217;s the kind of thing that they would actually love because it stands to get some buzz going.  I&#8217;ll bet there are literally hundreds of lay investors who hold such funds and would benefit from such an article.  (And you can take the credit!!!!)</p>
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		<title>By: IF</title>
		<link>http://alephblog.com/2009/01/22/hidden-credit-risk-in-currency-funds/comment-page-1/#comment-20769</link>
		<dc:creator>IF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was studying the fine print of ETFs in Europe I&#039;ve noticed the tendency to &quot;enhance&quot; them via swaps.
Lets take a simple example from the DB report.

http://www.dbxtrackers.co.uk/pdf/EN/semiannualreport/semiannualreportLU0292109344_2008_06.pdf

DB is in Europe, these funds are offered to Europeans, so how about the simplest of funds (Page 11):

   &quot;db x-trackers DJ EURO STOXX 50® ETF
   ===================================

   Investments at market value   968,567,156
   Cash at bank                      679,049
   [...]
   Unrealised loss on swap         4,177,966
   [...]

   TOTAL NET ASSETS              964,264,558&quot;


What does the ETF hold? Surely European stock, no? (Page 33)

   &quot;Shares Japan

   Aeon Co. Ltd. 1,871,280 JPY 14,772,493 14,688,686 1.52
   Astellas Pharma Inc. 1,164,608 JPY 31,337,764 31,378,613 3.25
   Dai Nippon Printing Co. Ltd. 1,069,762 JPY 9,963,760 10,024,044 1.04
   Daikin Industries Ltd. 316,844 JPY 10,633,689 10,168,379 1.05
   Dainippon Sumitomo Pharma Co. Ltd. 919,693 JPY 4,632,642 4,730,178 0.49
   Denso Corp. 1,424,566 JPY 31,817,089 31,132,708 3.23
   [...]&quot;

Not a single European company! There is a note to swaps involved (Page 102)

   &quot;The table below lists the notional value of both the paying and receiving legs of the swap and the unrealised gain /
   (loss) on swap per Sub-Fund.

   db x-trackers DJ EURO STOXX 50® ETF EUR 983,521,991 (4,177,966)&quot;

I don&#039;t understand why DB is allowed to gamble with investors money like this (all other listed ETFs are constructed similarly). Sure, it is unlikely that you go to zero when DB goes down, as there actually ARE some Japanese shares in the ETF. But it does not smell like a square deal to me either. 

Anything like this seen in US stock ETFs? Who are the worst offenders?

(Btw: thanks. I&#039;ve read Erics quote from the prospectus a year ago but did not understand it. Sold all my FXY yesterday.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was studying the fine print of ETFs in Europe I&#8217;ve noticed the tendency to &#8220;enhance&#8221; them via swaps.<br />
Lets take a simple example from the DB report.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dbxtrackers.co.uk/pdf/EN/semiannualreport/semiannualreportLU0292109344_2008_06.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.dbxtrackers.co.uk/pdf/EN/semiannualreport/semiannualreportLU0292109344_2008_06.pdf</a></p>
<p>DB is in Europe, these funds are offered to Europeans, so how about the simplest of funds (Page 11):</p>
<p>   &#8220;db x-trackers DJ EURO STOXX 50® ETF<br />
   ===================================</p>
<p>   Investments at market value   968,567,156<br />
   Cash at bank                      679,049<br />
   [...]<br />
   Unrealised loss on swap         4,177,966<br />
   [...]</p>
<p>   TOTAL NET ASSETS              964,264,558&#8243;</p>
<p>What does the ETF hold? Surely European stock, no? (Page 33)</p>
<p>   &#8220;Shares Japan</p>
<p>   Aeon Co. Ltd. 1,871,280 JPY 14,772,493 14,688,686 1.52<br />
   Astellas Pharma Inc. 1,164,608 JPY 31,337,764 31,378,613 3.25<br />
   Dai Nippon Printing Co. Ltd. 1,069,762 JPY 9,963,760 10,024,044 1.04<br />
   Daikin Industries Ltd. 316,844 JPY 10,633,689 10,168,379 1.05<br />
   Dainippon Sumitomo Pharma Co. Ltd. 919,693 JPY 4,632,642 4,730,178 0.49<br />
   Denso Corp. 1,424,566 JPY 31,817,089 31,132,708 3.23<br />
   [...]&#8221;</p>
<p>Not a single European company! There is a note to swaps involved (Page 102)</p>
<p>   &#8220;The table below lists the notional value of both the paying and receiving legs of the swap and the unrealised gain /<br />
   (loss) on swap per Sub-Fund.</p>
<p>   db x-trackers DJ EURO STOXX 50® ETF EUR 983,521,991 (4,177,966)&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why DB is allowed to gamble with investors money like this (all other listed ETFs are constructed similarly). Sure, it is unlikely that you go to zero when DB goes down, as there actually ARE some Japanese shares in the ETF. But it does not smell like a square deal to me either. </p>
<p>Anything like this seen in US stock ETFs? Who are the worst offenders?</p>
<p>(Btw: thanks. I&#8217;ve read Erics quote from the prospectus a year ago but did not understand it. Sold all my FXY yesterday.)</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the easiest and most straightforward would be purchasing foreign currency futures contracts on an exchange such as the CME. www.cme.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the easiest and most straightforward would be purchasing foreign currency futures contracts on an exchange such as the CME. <a href="http://www.cme.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cme.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Weinstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Weinstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you Eric and David.  I have been wondering how to hedge against the dollar, but have avoided ETF&#039;s because it just didn&#039;t feel right..  Now i know why.

WHile the ETF is a hedge against the currency, it is not a hedge against a system blowup.  And given what we have seen, that is not good enough.

So, what are the other possibilities for a normal US citizen to hedge against a dollar collapse?  David? Eric? anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you Eric and David.  I have been wondering how to hedge against the dollar, but have avoided ETF&#8217;s because it just didn&#8217;t feel right..  Now i know why.</p>
<p>WHile the ETF is a hedge against the currency, it is not a hedge against a system blowup.  And given what we have seen, that is not good enough.</p>
<p>So, what are the other possibilities for a normal US citizen to hedge against a dollar collapse?  David? Eric? anyone?</p>
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