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    What to do with a Negative Swap Spread

    From a recent article of mine, this is what I was asked, and how I responded:

    1. matt Says:
      Mr. Merkel:

      I think that I saw somewhere (recently) that swap spreads on the long end were negative. I assume (correct me if I’m wrong) that this is the spread over treasuries. How is this possible? What does/did it mean?

      PS: Good luck to all of the CFA candidates who took there exams today?

    2. David Merkel Says:
      I was taught way back when that it should be impossible. I was taught that it was impossible for the swap curve to invert, but it did it at the end of the last tightening cycle.

      John Jansen has written about this, and others have commented at his excellent blog on this topic. This is my take: there are many who want to receive fixed, and pay floating for a long time. This depresses the 30-year swap yield.

      Some want to do so because they are hedging exotic instruments that do the opposite, others because they might be hedging long term guarantees for long-dated liabilities (pensions, etc.), looking to minimize losses synthetically.

      I’m not sure anyone has the definitive answer. But here’s a game to play. Swap rates reflect AA counterparties. Take a 30-year Treasury. Pay fixed on the swap, receive back 3-month LIBOR. The package now pays 20 bp over 3-month LIBOR. Put it in a trust, get Moody’s and S&P to rate it, and call it “The Floating Rate Treasury Trust.” Sell participations to money market funds. This beats three-month T-bills by a little less than 60 basis points before expenses.

      Now, I wouldn’t buy that if I were managing a money market fund just because of the illiquidity versus Treasuries. But there is a tweak we could try:

      On top of the trust, offer protection on a basket of 100 single-A names on a five year rolling basis. Now the yield really swings; negotiate terms with the rating agencies so that it can be rated A1/P1/F1.  The excess yield is worth the illiquidity.

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    Okay, 30-year swap yields have been less than Treasuries for some time.  I’m not totally certain as to why.  There are a lot of games going on in the derivatives markets, and they seem to favor buying long and financing short.  I do know that there are gains to be made in the short run from taking the opposite position, unusual as that is… but as with any anomaly in the market, be cautious, because the motives of other players shift, making opportunities more attractive, less attractive, or unattractive.

    2 Responses to “ What to do with a Negative Swap Spread ”

    1. Hinjew Says:

      I think to get an idea of what is going on here we need to look at what the largest institutional investors are doing. Consider a large pension fund or insurance company which needs to align cash outflows and inflows over a very long time period. In the recent crisis, many of the assets which they hold for the long run have suffered in value tremendously, leaving them underfunded at the long end of the curve. They could buy longer maturity bonds, but being relatively strapped for cash makes buying the cash bond less attractive. Swaps, on the other hand, do not require upfront cash payments making them very attractive as a duration grab. I think this explains a large part the swap curve trading tight of Treasury’s. Any thoughts?

    2. Jason Says:

      Couple of other possible ways to play it, with the caveat that it was much more attractive back when the swap spread was in the -30’s/-40’s:

      1) The straight up arb, buy the 30 year, repo it, then enter the swap.

      2) Run some sort of leveraged floor CMS structure, where you receive some fixed amount and pay a coupon = leverage factor *(fixed amount – 30 year CMS). The idea being that once swaps go back to normal, you’re on easy street. The 30 year CMS is also more liquid, and by making the structure callable, you can shorten the trade.

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