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	<title>Comments on: Central Bank Independence is Overrated</title>
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		<title>By: q</title>
		<link>http://alephblog.com/2009/07/16/central-bank-independence-is-overrated/comment-page-1/#comment-22402</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at least with respect to AIG, he hasn&#039;t said anything that would lead me to believe that he didn&#039;t favor the bailout.  yes, he feels badly about it, and yes i think he held his nose, but i think he did it on principle.

i think the principle was that he wanted to avoid a debt-deflationary depression.

i doubt though that we would get a direct statement like &#039;i argued against it but did it anyway&#039; even if it was so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at least with respect to AIG, he hasn&#8217;t said anything that would lead me to believe that he didn&#8217;t favor the bailout.  yes, he feels badly about it, and yes i think he held his nose, but i think he did it on principle.</p>
<p>i think the principle was that he wanted to avoid a debt-deflationary depression.</p>
<p>i doubt though that we would get a direct statement like &#8216;i argued against it but did it anyway&#8217; even if it was so.</p>
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		<title>By: David Merkel</title>
		<link>http://alephblog.com/2009/07/16/central-bank-independence-is-overrated/comment-page-1/#comment-22388</link>
		<dc:creator>David Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 04:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>q -- with respect to liquidity programs, I agree, but with respect to Bear, the GSEs and AIG, I don&#039;t.  Bernanke&#039;s hand was forced in those situations, and even he has admitted a dislike for those actions in later interviews.

Lord -- I believe the &quot;double mandate&quot; helps drive systemic risk levels higher, as policy accomodation get applied earlier, bigger and longer than it should.  Ultimately unemployment levels are not affected by monetary policy in the long-run -- those are more a factor of regulatory policies that would affect the hypothetical &quot;full employment&quot; level.

Who am I to speak?  Nobody but a voter, and an economist that predicted this crisis, unlike most, even though I was wrong about the size -- it is bigger than I projected at first, and smaller than what I currently project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>q &#8212; with respect to liquidity programs, I agree, but with respect to Bear, the GSEs and AIG, I don&#8217;t.  Bernanke&#8217;s hand was forced in those situations, and even he has admitted a dislike for those actions in later interviews.</p>
<p>Lord &#8212; I believe the &#8220;double mandate&#8221; helps drive systemic risk levels higher, as policy accomodation get applied earlier, bigger and longer than it should.  Ultimately unemployment levels are not affected by monetary policy in the long-run &#8212; those are more a factor of regulatory policies that would affect the hypothetical &#8220;full employment&#8221; level.</p>
<p>Who am I to speak?  Nobody but a voter, and an economist that predicted this crisis, unlike most, even though I was wrong about the size &#8212; it is bigger than I projected at first, and smaller than what I currently project.</p>
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		<title>By: q</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you sure that bernanke has been caving to political pressure?  i think he believes in what he is doing, as what he is doing is completely consistent with what his academic work pre-Fed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you sure that bernanke has been caving to political pressure?  i think he believes in what he is doing, as what he is doing is completely consistent with what his academic work pre-Fed.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sound currency is not the only duty of the Fed.  Congress also dispatched to it the duty of maintaining a strong economy and employment.  Who are you to tell congress how to do its job?  Who are you to presume the Feds actions don&#039;t represent independence?  I understand your argument about accountability and independence but in the end they are accountable to congress and the request for independence is at most a plea not to interfere in what they have judged to be mostly correct actions.  Others would have it abolished.  Congress can judge what it wants to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sound currency is not the only duty of the Fed.  Congress also dispatched to it the duty of maintaining a strong economy and employment.  Who are you to tell congress how to do its job?  Who are you to presume the Feds actions don&#8217;t represent independence?  I understand your argument about accountability and independence but in the end they are accountable to congress and the request for independence is at most a plea not to interfere in what they have judged to be mostly correct actions.  Others would have it abolished.  Congress can judge what it wants to do.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Independence is overstated. When you have someone like Jamie Dimon sitting on the board of directors for the New York Fed at a time when, &quot;Sure, JPMorgan would love to take over Bear Stearns... if the New York Fed agrees to foot the first 30 billion in losses.&quot; Yeah, really independent.

And that is not to mention that the Federal Reserve is, by its charter, not independent from the banks. There&#039;s no better deal than being able to borrow at about 0% and turn the money around into low risk assets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Independence is overstated. When you have someone like Jamie Dimon sitting on the board of directors for the New York Fed at a time when, &#8220;Sure, JPMorgan would love to take over Bear Stearns&#8230; if the New York Fed agrees to foot the first 30 billion in losses.&#8221; Yeah, really independent.</p>
<p>And that is not to mention that the Federal Reserve is, by its charter, not independent from the banks. There&#8217;s no better deal than being able to borrow at about 0% and turn the money around into low risk assets.</p>
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