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	<title>Comments on: My Visit to the US Treasury, Part 2</title>
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		<title>By: David Merkel</title>
		<link>http://alephblog.com/2009/11/04/my-visit-to-the-us-treasury-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23666</link>
		<dc:creator>David Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The residential housing market is the biggest debt market in the US.  That is why I focus on it.

 As for corporation losing interest deductibility, I say fine, but let&#039;s make dividends tax deductible.  Let&#039;s equitize the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The residential housing market is the biggest debt market in the US.  That is why I focus on it.</p>
<p> As for corporation losing interest deductibility, I say fine, but let&#8217;s make dividends tax deductible.  Let&#8217;s equitize the system.</p>
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		<title>By: mulp</title>
		<link>http://alephblog.com/2009/11/04/my-visit-to-the-us-treasury-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23665</link>
		<dc:creator>mulp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you focus on too easy housing credit and its tax deductability?  What about the even higher interest rate credit card and better yet the legal loansharking called payday lending at 500%+, neither of which is tax deductible.  And lots of those with subprimes seem to be retired, low income, or unemployed so they get no tax benefit from mortgage interest.

I agree that the mortgage tax deduction should be phased out somehow, but that isn&#039;t sufficient to explain the crisis.  Just as F&amp;F can&#039;t explain it given both have roots going back more than half a century and we didn&#039;t see these problems until we had deregulation and an executive that happily turned blind eyes on borderline or actual fraud.  After all, the Fed had a lot of authority it didn&#039;t use to restrict none bank mortgage lending that would be clearly criminal fraud if a bank did it as systematically as the investment bank mortgage boiler room mortgage originators.

But what seems to me is the far bigger threat of the debt used by corporate execs to avoid having to obtain capital from selling stock to investors who might find the returns on capital too low to justify the venture.  Or the factoring of receivables and inventory.

We are no longer a capitalist economy, but a debtist economy.

We should phase out the individual mortgage interest deduction after phasing out the interest deduction for corporate debt of all kinds, and drive corporations back to being capitalists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you focus on too easy housing credit and its tax deductability?  What about the even higher interest rate credit card and better yet the legal loansharking called payday lending at 500%+, neither of which is tax deductible.  And lots of those with subprimes seem to be retired, low income, or unemployed so they get no tax benefit from mortgage interest.</p>
<p>I agree that the mortgage tax deduction should be phased out somehow, but that isn&#8217;t sufficient to explain the crisis.  Just as F&amp;F can&#8217;t explain it given both have roots going back more than half a century and we didn&#8217;t see these problems until we had deregulation and an executive that happily turned blind eyes on borderline or actual fraud.  After all, the Fed had a lot of authority it didn&#8217;t use to restrict none bank mortgage lending that would be clearly criminal fraud if a bank did it as systematically as the investment bank mortgage boiler room mortgage originators.</p>
<p>But what seems to me is the far bigger threat of the debt used by corporate execs to avoid having to obtain capital from selling stock to investors who might find the returns on capital too low to justify the venture.  Or the factoring of receivables and inventory.</p>
<p>We are no longer a capitalist economy, but a debtist economy.</p>
<p>We should phase out the individual mortgage interest deduction after phasing out the interest deduction for corporate debt of all kinds, and drive corporations back to being capitalists.</p>
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		<title>By: David Merkel</title>
		<link>http://alephblog.com/2009/11/04/my-visit-to-the-us-treasury-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23647</link>
		<dc:creator>David Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, it would be breaking my word.  I know the identities of a number of anonymous bloggers.  I don&#039;t disclose that.  I sometimes counsel people with marital problems -- their problems are confidential.  I sometimes get material nonpublic information -- I give it to my attorney and keep quiet.

I have private data on and from many of my readers; I only disclose what they want.  Same for underwriting clients.  The Treasury is no different in my opinion -- they set the rules.  I have had insurance regulators ask my opinion on confidential matters.  I keep quiet.

Often, bearing responsibility means keeping confidences.  In my case, I don&#039;t need access to the Treasury -- I have happily lived without it, and probably will in the future.  The US Treasury will probably not like what I write, but at least I will write it politely.

File a FOIA,  I&#039;ll bet you could get the data.  Then blog your success.  Go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, it would be breaking my word.  I know the identities of a number of anonymous bloggers.  I don&#8217;t disclose that.  I sometimes counsel people with marital problems &#8212; their problems are confidential.  I sometimes get material nonpublic information &#8212; I give it to my attorney and keep quiet.</p>
<p>I have private data on and from many of my readers; I only disclose what they want.  Same for underwriting clients.  The Treasury is no different in my opinion &#8212; they set the rules.  I have had insurance regulators ask my opinion on confidential matters.  I keep quiet.</p>
<p>Often, bearing responsibility means keeping confidences.  In my case, I don&#8217;t need access to the Treasury &#8212; I have happily lived without it, and probably will in the future.  The US Treasury will probably not like what I write, but at least I will write it politely.</p>
<p>File a FOIA,  I&#8217;ll bet you could get the data.  Then blog your success.  Go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Chessik</title>
		<link>http://alephblog.com/2009/11/04/my-visit-to-the-us-treasury-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23643</link>
		<dc:creator>David Chessik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if you did tell who was there from Treasury?  What would be your sanction or punishment?  What is the threat??????????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if you did tell who was there from Treasury?  What would be your sanction or punishment?  What is the threat??????????????</p>
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		<title>By: James Dailey</title>
		<link>http://alephblog.com/2009/11/04/my-visit-to-the-us-treasury-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23640</link>
		<dc:creator>James Dailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello David,

Were there any questions or explanations as to why the taxpayer was required to bailout bond holders of these large institutions? Except for Lehman, every other holding company bond holder has been bailed out at tremendous cost and likely wreaked havoc via moral hazard.

Thanks for the insight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello David,</p>
<p>Were there any questions or explanations as to why the taxpayer was required to bailout bond holders of these large institutions? Except for Lehman, every other holding company bond holder has been bailed out at tremendous cost and likely wreaked havoc via moral hazard.</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://alephblog.com/2009/11/04/my-visit-to-the-us-treasury-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23639</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it hard to believe that (most of) you guys do not understand the system is broken beyond repair and continued intervention only delays, and increases, the impending crash and burn.

Not knowing the level of Govt reps at the meeting, and assuming they were not top level, it is understandable that they are still living in fantasy of ignorance.  I must assume the top guys know the end game and are in the process of sucking out every last cent while they still can.

I will remind you that we are facing a global crisis which is primarily a currency problem...
assuming we overlook all the fraud and corruption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hard to believe that (most of) you guys do not understand the system is broken beyond repair and continued intervention only delays, and increases, the impending crash and burn.</p>
<p>Not knowing the level of Govt reps at the meeting, and assuming they were not top level, it is understandable that they are still living in fantasy of ignorance.  I must assume the top guys know the end game and are in the process of sucking out every last cent while they still can.</p>
<p>I will remind you that we are facing a global crisis which is primarily a currency problem&#8230;<br />
assuming we overlook all the fraud and corruption.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://alephblog.com/2009/11/04/my-visit-to-the-us-treasury-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23638</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...US Treasury from the handouts that they gave us...&quot;

Taking handouts from the Treasury? You&#039;re the same as the banks :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;US Treasury from the handouts that they gave us&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Taking handouts from the Treasury? You&#8217;re the same as the banks <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Merkel</title>
		<link>http://alephblog.com/2009/11/04/my-visit-to-the-us-treasury-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23637</link>
		<dc:creator>David Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saw it, and I will mention it in tonight&#039;s post, KD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saw it, and I will mention it in tonight&#8217;s post, KD</p>
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		<title>By: Kid Dynamite</title>
		<link>http://alephblog.com/2009/11/04/my-visit-to-the-us-treasury-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23635</link>
		<dc:creator>Kid Dynamite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi david - nice meeting you this week. i just wrote part I of my recap:

http://fridayinvegas.blogspot.com/2009/11/sit-down-with-senior-treasury-officials.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi david &#8211; nice meeting you this week. i just wrote part I of my recap:</p>
<p><a href="http://fridayinvegas.blogspot.com/2009/11/sit-down-with-senior-treasury-officials.html" rel="nofollow">http://fridayinvegas.blogspot.com/2009/11/sit-down-with-senior-treasury-officials.html</a></p>
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