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> <channel><title>Comments on: The Market Goes to the Dogs, Which Chase Their Tail Risk</title> <atom:link href="http://alephblog.com/2010/07/26/the-market-goes-to-the-dogs-which-chase-their-tail-risk/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://alephblog.com/2010/07/26/the-market-goes-to-the-dogs-which-chase-their-tail-risk/</link> <description>Helping Institutions and Ordinary People Invest Better by Focusing on Risk Control</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:41:54 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Professor Pinch</title><link>http://alephblog.com/2010/07/26/the-market-goes-to-the-dogs-which-chase-their-tail-risk/comment-page-1/#comment-27184</link> <dc:creator>Professor Pinch</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:42:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://alephblog.com/?p=2718#comment-27184</guid> <description>I have 1 comment and 1 question. First, the comment: completely agree on the use of cash as a hedge. Especially if you see the asset allocation landscape on a liquidity spectrum with cash as the most liquid and other assets (bespoke trades, in particular) as highly illiquid.
Second, do you see a difference between your cat bond model and synthetic CDOs? I for one don&#039;t see much of one. I can craft a hedge portfolio buying protection while the dealer packs it all in a SPV and sells the cash flows out to investors, which in essence describes a synthetic CDO. Maybe there&#039;s something I&#039;m missing and you can explain.
Thanks.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have 1 comment and 1 question. First, the comment: completely agree on the use of cash as a hedge. Especially if you see the asset allocation landscape on a liquidity spectrum with cash as the most liquid and other assets (bespoke trades, in particular) as highly illiquid.</p><p>Second, do you see a difference between your cat bond model and synthetic CDOs? I for one don&#8217;t see much of one. I can craft a hedge portfolio buying protection while the dealer packs it all in a SPV and sells the cash flows out to investors, which in essence describes a synthetic CDO. Maybe there&#8217;s something I&#8217;m missing and you can explain.</p><p>Thanks.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Six of the Best Linkfest — Economatix</title><link>http://alephblog.com/2010/07/26/the-market-goes-to-the-dogs-which-chase-their-tail-risk/comment-page-1/#comment-27183</link> <dc:creator>Six of the Best Linkfest — Economatix</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:57:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://alephblog.com/?p=2718#comment-27183</guid> <description>[...] There&#8217;s no substitute for cash in a disaster Aleph [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There&#8217;s no substitute for cash in a disaster Aleph [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Market Goes to the Dogs, Which Chase Their Tail Risk &#171; Finance.BlogNotions - Thoughts from Industry Experts</title><link>http://alephblog.com/2010/07/26/the-market-goes-to-the-dogs-which-chase-their-tail-risk/comment-page-1/#comment-27178</link> <dc:creator>The Market Goes to the Dogs, Which Chase Their Tail Risk &#171; Finance.BlogNotions - Thoughts from Industry Experts</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:14:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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isPermaLink="false">http://alephblog.com/?p=2718#comment-27177</guid> <description>in response to &quot;What Might be a New Idea&quot;,
I see little incentive to buying a &quot;cat bond&quot; unless the yield is substantial, the buyers are taking all the deltas and fixing their vega, theta and rho price at the beginnings, so I would expect the the vega and rho to carry premium.
The hedge fund is essentially buying rolling puts at a fixed price--eliminating it&#039;s greek risk--from the SPV, which is in turn passing premiums to the bondholders, except reclassifying them as &quot;interest.&quot; Depending on how this is structured, the bond holders wouldn&#039;t see a loss on principal until the options went binary, even though they were essentially long deltas that kept declining but were obscured away by the structure.
Is this really cheaper for a hedge fund than replicating the structure with vanillas? The only two advantages I see here are that the fund is fixing the insurance price--moving risk to the SPV and then bond holders--and that avoiding the use of vanillas for a custom structure eliminates the risk of moving the market / etc, but you could probably get the same thing with OTCs, and since the SPV hold collateral, it&#039;s not like you are benefiting from circumventing haircuts / margin requirements, which was basically what the CDS trade was...
Now, in the case of a worthless expiration, what happens to whatever--if anything-- is left over? is there an equity component? if so, does the fund own it, or is passed down to the cat bond sellers?
I don&#039;t mean to put you on the spot, this is really an interesting post. I think about hedging tail risk a whole lot, but playing these games with financial instruments is just a battle against entropy, and the only value to be created is really a result of circumvention of legal and tax issues (converting cap gains to interest or divs, circumventing margin reqs, using OTCs to avoid information leakage)
Generally, though, I am totally with you. In good times I make sure I have cash and borrowing power. I like to put cash to work in times of distress and add margin if it gets to downright crisis levels.
Another strategy I like is keeping delta-neutral long-gamma positions (via a gamma scalp) during good times and at vol. lows. They bleed relatively slowly, so they aren&#039;t expensive, but when distress happens, volatility tends to sky-rocket and markets move fast, making it a great cash flow-generator (which you can then use to buy assets at their new, lower prices). Of course this all requires a certain size, plenty of attention and low friction costs.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in response to &#8220;What Might be a New Idea&#8221;,</p><p>I see little incentive to buying a &#8220;cat bond&#8221; unless the yield is substantial, the buyers are taking all the deltas and fixing their vega, theta and rho price at the beginnings, so I would expect the the vega and rho to carry premium.</p><p>The hedge fund is essentially buying rolling puts at a fixed price&#8211;eliminating it&#8217;s greek risk&#8211;from the SPV, which is in turn passing premiums to the bondholders, except reclassifying them as &#8220;interest.&#8221; Depending on how this is structured, the bond holders wouldn&#8217;t see a loss on principal until the options went binary, even though they were essentially long deltas that kept declining but were obscured away by the structure.</p><p>Is this really cheaper for a hedge fund than replicating the structure with vanillas? The only two advantages I see here are that the fund is fixing the insurance price&#8211;moving risk to the SPV and then bond holders&#8211;and that avoiding the use of vanillas for a custom structure eliminates the risk of moving the market / etc, but you could probably get the same thing with OTCs, and since the SPV hold collateral, it&#8217;s not like you are benefiting from circumventing haircuts / margin requirements, which was basically what the CDS trade was&#8230;</p><p>Now, in the case of a worthless expiration, what happens to whatever&#8211;if anything&#8211; is left over? is there an equity component? if so, does the fund own it, or is passed down to the cat bond sellers?</p><p>I don&#8217;t mean to put you on the spot, this is really an interesting post. I think about hedging tail risk a whole lot, but playing these games with financial instruments is just a battle against entropy, and the only value to be created is really a result of circumvention of legal and tax issues (converting cap gains to interest or divs, circumventing margin reqs, using OTCs to avoid information leakage)</p><p>Generally, though, I am totally with you. In good times I make sure I have cash and borrowing power. I like to put cash to work in times of distress and add margin if it gets to downright crisis levels.</p><p>Another strategy I like is keeping delta-neutral long-gamma positions (via a gamma scalp) during good times and at vol. lows. They bleed relatively slowly, so they aren&#8217;t expensive, but when distress happens, volatility tends to sky-rocket and markets move fast, making it a great cash flow-generator (which you can then use to buy assets at their new, lower prices). Of course this all requires a certain size, plenty of attention and low friction costs.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Monday links: house of mirrors Abnormal Returns</title><link>http://alephblog.com/2010/07/26/the-market-goes-to-the-dogs-which-chase-their-tail-risk/comment-page-1/#comment-27176</link> <dc:creator>Monday links: house of mirrors Abnormal Returns</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:46:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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