The Beauty of Old Ideas

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Photo Credit: Daniele Dalledonne || Ever been to a place where everything was a little past its prime, but showed that it was a beautiful place in its time?

One of the great draws in?reading investment writing is the lure of “hot tips.” ?Everyone wants an investment idea that they can put a lot of money into that will reward buyers (or shorts) with a quick and large score. ?Thus most publications try to lure you in with articles like these, whether they will work or not.

We live in an era where market players scour as much fresh data as possible to make money, because there is validity to the idea that only fresh, previously unknown information can produce excess returns. ?The grand majority of us will never receive that information for free, and can’t afford to pay up for services that promise to give such carefully researched ideas (whether true or not, and whether they work or not).

So what’s a humble value investor to do, professional or amateur? ?I can suggest five?things:

  1. Take a look at old ideas that seemed promising but when the news hit the market, there was a price jump, then a fall, then nothing. ?Typically, I have lists of companies that I have looked at — maybe it is time for a second look?
  2. Source your own ideas — particularly look at smaller companies that have low or no analyst coverage. ?As regulations have come over Wall Street, you might be surprised at the number of companies in seemingly boring industries that have little to no real coverage. ?Some of them are sizable. ?(By “real coverage” I mean a human being, not an algorithm. ?Don’t get me wrong, algorithms are often better than people, but the value of a human being ?here is that he/she is more representative of how human investors think — and we love exciting stories.)
  3. Scan 13Fs for new positions and additions — my favorite ideas are when a number of clever investors are adding on net to their holdings (and the stock has done nothing), or two hedge funds buy a new name at the same time that none of the other bright investors hold at all. ?(not a spinoff)
  4. Or, look at spinoffs. ?For a little while, there will be liquidity and small or no analyst coverage. ?Many large investors and indexers will toss out the smaller spinoff, often leaving a undervalued company behind.
  5. Hold onto companies in your portfolio if they stumble, but you still think management is making the right decisions.

One of the main ideas behind this is that it takes a while for business ideas to work out. ?Most valid ideas will hit a couple of bumps along the way, and short-term earnings will disappoint occasionally with good companies. ?Companies that never have disappointing earnings may be manipulating their accounting.

Many if not most of the companies that I hold for years run into disappointments, become an unrealized capital loss in my portfolio for a while, and come back to greater success. ?The short-term disappointments sometimes allow me buy a little bit more, but the main thing to analyze is that the company’s management continues to behave rationally for the good of all shareholders.

Final Notes

This only applies to healthy companies. ?Do not try this with companies that have weak balance sheets that might be forced to try to raise funds (at unattractive levels) if their plans don’t go right. ?All good investing embeds a margin of safety.

Another way to phrase this is think differently. ?There is a lot of money out there chasing the most liquid companies. If you can take on a little illiquidity on a quality company that is not well-known, that could be a good idea. ?But remember, thinking differently is not enough if?your idea isn’t smart. ?It has to be smart and different.

With that, happy hunting. ?Sometime in the near term, I will do a post on underfollowed companies. ?Read it when it comes — it might have some good ideas.

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6 thoughts on “The Beauty of Old Ideas

  1. In principle I agree with focusing on underfollowed or uncovered stocks, but they are hard to find. The Street may be cutting back on coverage, but if one includes the research from websites like Seeking Alpha, research coverage is probably higher than ever. Quality is typically not great (there are a lot of retired engineers posting on Seeking Alpha), but these “unknown” stocks are getting coverage.

    My solution has been to look for individual stocks outside of the United States, where the Seeking Alpha does not exist and the competition seems much less of a problem.

    Nick de Peyster
    https://undervaluedstocks.info/

    1. I have not logged into Seeking Alpha in five years (or so). In the old days of SA, they didn’t just let *anyone* publish there. I don’t think they are a significant factor at all with any stocks.

  2. David, I’d take another look at Seeking Alpha, especially for small and global stocks. I think you will be pleasantly surprised by the depth of some of the analyses and the quality of the comments sections of many of these. Stay away from the trendy and hot stocks as these are usually quite bad, but I personally always take a look at Seeking Alpha in doing stock research.

    A good example of this is Dutch Insurer, NN Group (NNGPF or NN.AS), trading at under 40% of book value and less than a 10 p/e. Obviously cheap, but hard to find info and Seeking Alpha was a very good resource.

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