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Over the years, I have suggested that two firms should break up on a number of occasions: AIG & GE. Both are now in the process of completing their breakups.
The news on GE dropped today, and I was surprised that the media did not pick up on one significant question on the GE breakup. Who gets the insurance liabilities that have been a real pain to GE even after selling off Genworth. As I tweeted:
I think I first suggested that GE should break up in a comment in RealMoney’s Columnist Conversation sometime back in 2005, but that is lost in the pre-2008 RealMoney file system, and exists no more. In terms of what I can show I will quote from this old post from 2008:
5) File this under Sick Sigma, or Six Stigma — GE is finally getting closer to breaking up the enterprise.? It has always been my opinion that conglomerates don’t work because of diseconomies of scale.? As I wrote at RealMoney:
David Merkel |
GE — Geriatric Elephant |
4/27/2007 1:16 PM EDT |
First, my personal bias. Almost every firm with a market cap greater than $100 billion should be broken up. I don’t care how clever the management team is, the diseconomies of scale become crushing in the megacaps.
Regarding GE in specific, it is likely a better buy here than it was in early 1999, when the stock first breached this price level. That said, it doesn’t own Genworth, the insurance company that it had to jettison in order to keep its undeserved AAA rating. Which company did better since the IPO of Genworth? Genworth did so much better that it is not funny. 87% total return (w/divs reinvested) for GNW vs. 28% for GE. A pity that GE IPO’ed it rather than spinning it off to shareholders…
But here’s a problem with breaking GE up. GE Capital, which still provides a lot of the profits could not be AAA as a standalone entity and have an acceptable ROE. It would be single-A rated, which would push up funding costs enough to cut into profit margins. (Note: GE capital could not be A-/A3 rated, or their commercial paper would no longer be A1/P1 which is a necessary condition for investment grade finance companies to be profitable.)
Would GE do as well without a captive finance arm (GE Capital)? It would take some adjustment, but I would think so. So, would I break up GE by selling off GE Capital? Yes, and I would give GE Capital enough excess capital to allow it to stay AAA, even if it means losing the AAA at the industrial company, and then let the new GE Capital management figure out what to do with all of the excess capital, and at what rating to operate.
Splitting up that way would force the industrial arm to become more efficient with its proportionately larger debt load, and would highlight the next round of breakups, which would have the industrial divisions go their own separate ways.
Position: none, and I have never understood the attraction to GE as a stock
Over the years, I continued to write about GE and Genworth (I grew bearish over LTC after analyzing Penn Treaty. I was always bearish on mortgage insurance). I never thought either would do well, but I never expected them to do as badly as they did. Optimistic accounting ploys from the Welch years bit into profits of Immelt, as he was forced to reset accruals higher again and again. Overly aggressive financial and insurance underwriting similarly had to be reversed, and losses realized.
After today, all but the successor firm for GE (Aviation) has a chance to do something significant, freed from the distractions of being in a conglomerate. They can focus, and maybe win. As for GE Aviation, because of the insurance liabilities they will probably receive a valuation discount. Maybe they will sacrifice and pay up, selling the liabilities to Buffett with significant overcollateralization.
American International Group
I first suggested that AIG break up back in 2008. Only M. R. Greenberg had the capability of managing the behemoth, and once he was gone, lower level managers began making decisions that Greenberg would have quashed, which led to short-term gains, and larger long-term losses. After AIG was taken over by the Fed, bit-by-bit they began selling off the pieces — Hartford Steam Boiler, ILFC, AIA, Alico (to MetLife), and more. They were left with a portion of the international P&C business, and the domestic life and P&C businesses.
They are now planning on spinning off the domestic life companies, which will leave AIG as a P&C insurer with relatively clean liabilities (They reinsured Asbestos and Environmental with Berkshire Hathaway).
Where do we go from here?
Is there a lesson here? Avoid complexity. Avoid mixing mixing industrial and financial. Avoid mixing life and P&C. (Allstate is finally splitting that.)
That said, there may be another lesson for the future. What of the extremely large companies that are monopolies? Some of them aren’t complex; they just dominate a large area of the economy as monopolies. Governments want to do one of two things with monopolies. They either want to break them up, or turn them into regulated utilities. Why?
The government doesn’t like entities that get almost as powerful as them, so they limit their size, scope, and subject them to regulation. So be aware if you hold some of the largest companies in the US or the world, because governments have their eyes on them, and want them to be subject to the government(s).
Full disclosure: long MET
“The government doesn’t like entities that get almost as powerful as them”- about monopolies.
This is true in a very roundabout way, but it’s much simpler: monopolies have all kinds of “power” including the ability to control the market: price, supply, quality, etc- because of the lack of competition. Implicit in free markets is competition.
As far as GE- I have thought the same thing for 20 years. I couldn’t understand the financial part of the company, and was suspicious of the whole enterprise because of it.
The aviation part, I believe, is going to retain the GE name.
The whole episode is unfortunate.
I am not sure that breaking it up now makes that much sense. It’s not that big, and it’s just three high tech manufacturing businesses.
I am now suspicious because I am sure the execs are getting some fat bonuses for just breaking the thing up.
Thanks for the post.
The most bloated, bureaucratic conglomerate of them all is the US government. And its riddled with corruption too. No President will be able to be effective while held back by the giant conglomerate that is the US bureaucracy.
Biden is far too compromised — his mental capacity, his physical health, and his corruption history as the Senator from MBNA. He won’t address the federal conglomerate problem any more than he will stop wrecking the economy. We’ll be really fortunate if the moron doesn’t start another war.
Even by government accounting “standards” (fraud), the entitlement programs (social security and medicare) are toast. That means a future president will be forced to right-size the federal government whether they want to or not.
Conglomerates that address the bloat end up like IBM or GE (or the many parts that once were ITT).
Conglomerates that refuse to right size end up like GM, Kodak and Bethlehem Steel.
Plenty of global super powers in history have been fitted for toe tags; Uncle Sam wouldn’t be in the first 10.